A
Foucauldian analysis would probably not define the interview genre explicitly,
but would more likely situate the interview genre within the larger academic
discourse, which would be the more salient object in a Foucauldian analysis. Let’s look at one example, “‘That Light-BulbFeeling’: An Interview with Clay Spinuzzi.” This interview, in a typical move, has
a blurb at the beginning introducing Spinuzzi as “an accomplished scholar and
teacher in rhetoric and technical communication” (McNely, 2013, p. 1). In other words, this interview, as is
typical, is predicated on the fact that there is a scholarly discourse, that
scholarship takes place within discrete fields, and that certain individuals
advance the field or discipline, and as intellectual leaders, are worth
listening to. The interview genre
reveals the existence of academic celebrity, and through what these prominent
scholars say in the interview, the discourse and the discursive formations that
structure it may emerge. The genre in
itself, however, is hard to theorize as very important in a Foucauldian
analysis, something that becomes clearer as we examine what might be regarded
as the nodes and links in the Foucauldian model.
In the first section of The Archeology of Knowledge, Foucault discusses four types of discursive formations. The first type builds the discourse around “objects of which it [the discourse] can speak” (p. 46). The second is the formation of “enunciative modalities” that have to do with the positioning of the speaker as legitimated by his or her position within institutions or settings that are valued by a society, permitting and shaping the types of discourse that emerge. The third type of discursive formation involves concepts around which discourse may organize itself. Here Foucault gives some examples from economics and from botany, and it appears that the concept is something like ideas that might catalyze paradigm shifts in Thomas Kuhn’s model. Foucault suggests that “one tries to determine according to what schematas (of series, simultaneous groupings, linear or reciprocal modification) the statements may be linked to one another in a type of discourse” (p. 60). The final type of discursive formation is what Foucault calls “the formation of strategies” (p. 64). This refers to something like the logical linkage of discourse elements, or, as Foucault puts it, “as systematically different ways of treating objects of discourse…, of arranging forms of enunciation…, of manipulating concepts” (p. 69-70). Thus, in a Foucauldian analysis, the first three discursive formations—objects, subject roles and positions, and concepts—tend to serve as nodes, I would argue, while strategies—the fourth discursive formation—might be better seen as the linkages or connections between the nodes—or perhaps an algorithm for directing the flow of information. In other words, the discursive functions provide the skeleton of discourse as network.
In the first section of The Archeology of Knowledge, Foucault discusses four types of discursive formations. The first type builds the discourse around “objects of which it [the discourse] can speak” (p. 46). The second is the formation of “enunciative modalities” that have to do with the positioning of the speaker as legitimated by his or her position within institutions or settings that are valued by a society, permitting and shaping the types of discourse that emerge. The third type of discursive formation involves concepts around which discourse may organize itself. Here Foucault gives some examples from economics and from botany, and it appears that the concept is something like ideas that might catalyze paradigm shifts in Thomas Kuhn’s model. Foucault suggests that “one tries to determine according to what schematas (of series, simultaneous groupings, linear or reciprocal modification) the statements may be linked to one another in a type of discourse” (p. 60). The final type of discursive formation is what Foucault calls “the formation of strategies” (p. 64). This refers to something like the logical linkage of discourse elements, or, as Foucault puts it, “as systematically different ways of treating objects of discourse…, of arranging forms of enunciation…, of manipulating concepts” (p. 69-70). Thus, in a Foucauldian analysis, the first three discursive formations—objects, subject roles and positions, and concepts—tend to serve as nodes, I would argue, while strategies—the fourth discursive formation—might be better seen as the linkages or connections between the nodes—or perhaps an algorithm for directing the flow of information. In other words, the discursive functions provide the skeleton of discourse as network.
What
then are the discursive formations of the interview genre? Or do multiple types of discursive formation
apply? The interview involves a
conversation with two interlocutors, a venue for publication, an imagined
audience consisting of disciplinary practitioners and potential disciplinary
practitioners, and the generic expectations offered by the genre frame. The concept of object does not seem
immediately helpful since a diverse array of objects can be discussed. Academic discourse encompasses many fields
and disciplines, each of which has its own set of salient objects and concepts. In fact, in describing the first discursive
formation, Foucault is not referring to objects per se, but to the rules
governing the emergence of a set of objects viewed and managed in a certain way
by discourse. While academic discourse
of all types examines and discusses its objects of study in conventionalized
ways, the interview genre does not seem the best place to seek these
rules. This brings us to a question of
scope that we must address before moving forward.
Foucault’s
model, as already noted, is built around the concept of discourse. Understanding
exactly what he means is hard to nail down, partially because at times he uses
the term in more or less the conventional way but at other times, as the
broader, more theoretical concept that he is generally noted for. A reasonably good definition of this is “a
loose structure of interconnected assumptions that makes knowledge possible”
(Bertens, 2005, p. 154). Above this
already fairly big picture position, Foucault poses another, even broader
level, episteme, which is described
as “the totality of relations that can be discovered, for a given period,
between the sciences when one analyzes them at the level of discursive
regularities” (1972, p. 191). Mills (2004) offers an explanation that is
perhaps a little more transparent: “An episteme includes the range of
methodologies which a culture draws on as self-evident in order to be able to
think about certain subjects” (p. 51). Clearer, this is macro level that
subsumes discourse. On the other hand,
Foucault’s view of discourse is larger than one discipline; instead, it may
connect multiple institutions and disciplines.
(See, for example, Foucault, 1972, p. 179). Nevertheless, it was the prospect of using a
Foucauldian analysis to examine the ways that disciplines and subdisciplines
enact and construct disciplinary values that drew me to try out the theory. After all, many of Foucault’s examples in The Archeology of Knowledge involve
disciplinary discourse at a given point in time. But when I began the analysis, I realized
that the interview genre exists—or could exist—in more than one discipline. In other words, the discourse governing the
genre must be the assumptions that undergird American academia, that confer
status on certain scholars, and that make it meaningful and interesting to
publish simulated conversations with them.
The discourse governing the content of a given interview or subset of
interviews, on the other hand, should be the values and reasoning that
undergird a specific discipline or research program. American academia arguably has a discourse
that extends itself into all disciplines and fields represented by institutions
of higher education, but individual interviews are more likely to yield the
objects valued by the discipline.
Research reports might be more fruitful for an analysis of academic
discourse per se, and indeed, Swales (1990, 2004) does reveal characteristics
of academic discourse through genre analysis that might be reinterpreted as
discursive formations. Going back to the
interview genre, Foucault’s third discursive formation, examination of concepts
that construct discourse, poses similar challenges when moving beyond
disciplinary boundaries.
Examining the concept of enunciative modality in relation to the interview genre is more meaningful. The subject of an interview is typically chosen for his or her notable contributions to theory or methodology within a discipline. As the subject, the interviewee is given a great deal of status, but oddly, not a great deal of agency. Because an interviewee has been chosen for well-developed and widely-promoted theories, he or she is, in fact, constructed and positioned to a degree by his or her own theory. The interviewee explains and builds on the theory but is unlikely to develop new theory or make substantive changes during the discussion; in fact, the theorist has become constrained by the boundaries of his or her own theory. In terms of producing a description of academic discourse, then, the interview genre reveals the way that academics are anchored by the discourse of their fields, even their own contributions to it.
Examining the concept of enunciative modality in relation to the interview genre is more meaningful. The subject of an interview is typically chosen for his or her notable contributions to theory or methodology within a discipline. As the subject, the interviewee is given a great deal of status, but oddly, not a great deal of agency. Because an interviewee has been chosen for well-developed and widely-promoted theories, he or she is, in fact, constructed and positioned to a degree by his or her own theory. The interviewee explains and builds on the theory but is unlikely to develop new theory or make substantive changes during the discussion; in fact, the theorist has become constrained by the boundaries of his or her own theory. In terms of producing a description of academic discourse, then, the interview genre reveals the way that academics are anchored by the discourse of their fields, even their own contributions to it.
As
may have emerged from the previous discussion, within a Foucauldian analysis,
genre cannot quite serve as a node. In
rhetorical genre theory, genres might be seen as conveyors of action, or as
links, and in activity theory, as mediating nodes. Foucault’s approach tends to sideline them. It might be possible, in fact, to argue that
research genres encapsulate a strategy, Foucault’s fourth discursive formation,
in the way that they stabilize and display conventionalized academic
discourse. Initially, I believe that interviews
represented a less crucial part of the network of academia, but a recent
discussion with Louise Phelps challenged that notion. In a project that she is currently working
on, she discovered that a scholar’s networking activities, for example, hosting
conferences and mentoring other scholars have an important effect on scholarly
presence. Scholars with a presence in a
field are more likely to be interviewed, and being interviewed will surely make
a scholar more noticeable. In this
sense, the interview genre does play a role in terms of positioning a scholar
within the larger academic discourse. Indeed,
becoming more recognizable in more contexts can perhaps play a small role in
helping Spinuzzi (or Steven Pinker or Stanley Fish) to become
public intellectuals and speak for academia.
In this sense their own theories become the theories that represent
academia.
Most
interviews include a question about a scholar’s influences. For example, McNely details a number of
scholars who have influenced Spinuzzi such as David Russell, “his mentor and
dissertation director” (p. 2). Thus, interviews are genres that serve to
connect scholars explicitly to their ancestors in their discipline. If I am seeing discourse as network, is the
interview genre, therefore, a collection of nodes, a sub-network of the larger
academic discourse?
When
considering how nodes are situated and the relationships between nodes in the
Foucauldian model, it seems like human subjects need to be primary nodes. The interview genre certainly highlights the
centrality of scholars as subjects, in an immediate relationship with another
scholar, i.e. the interviewer, and building a connection to objects and
concepts. But here a problem emerges in
the Foucauldian model. He emphasizes the
situatedness of discursive formation, emphasizing how discourse constrains what
is noticed or can be said. This makes
discourse appear quite static. At the
same time, he is interested in discontinuities, and wants “to show that a
change in the order of discourse does not presuppose ‘new ideas’, a little
invention and creativity, a different mentality, but transformations in a
practice, perhaps also in neighboring practices, and in their common
articulation” (p. 209). Where do this
shifts come from given that subjects are seen as so limited in terms of agency? If subjects had no agency, discourse would
never evolve and none of the historical shifts that Foucault explored in his
genealogies would have occurred.
Perhaps
it has to do with information flow. If
we can assume that statements (in Foucault’s sense of the word) flow through discourse
as network, making use of nodes and paths (think discursive formations), and
moving between subjects in network (for example, interview interviewer and
interviewee, then there two things are likely.
First, repeating statements—knowledge as perceived, concepts as
highlighted, strategies as employed—reinforces existing networks, like burning
connections in a neural network in the brain, making certain types of discourse
stronger through use. The second possibility,
again using the analogy of the neural network, is the emergence of slight
shifts that subtly readjust the network, reshaping the discourse. How exactly this would lead to seismic
shifts, like paradigm shifts, is perhaps something that needs to be explained
by another theory.
Foucault’s
ideas about discourse do seem productive for discussing disciplinary discourse
as well as larger discourses. Using
Foucault to look at the academic interview genre brought me contradictions of
scope. It seems that the genre is
generated by the discourse of academia whereas the subjects (interview and
interviewee) are more plausibly situated within the discourse of
discipline. Nevertheless, considering
the linkages related to subject, stimulated by Foucault’s principle of enunciative
modality, does offer some insights into how academics are situated in relation
to each other within academic discourse.
References
Bertens, H.
(2005). Literary theory: The basics. London: Routledge.
Foucault,
M. (1972, 1989). The Archeology of
knowledge. London: Routledge.
McNely, B. (2013). “That lightbulb
feeling”: An Interview with Clay Spinuzzi .Present Tense: A Journal of
Rhetoric in Society 3(1). Retrieved from
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http://www.presenttensejournal.org/volume-3/that-light-bulb-feeling-an-interview-with-clay-spinuzzi/
Mills, S. (2004). Discourse (2nd ed.). London: Routledge.
Swales, J. M. (1990). Genre analysis: English in academic and research settings. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
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Laurie,
ReplyDeleteI'm really glad I was assigned to read your post since we both used Foucault. Your analysis really helped me gain some additional perspectives on Foucault's theory. I really liked the way you were able to note ways the theory wasn't helpful in ways you initially thought it would be (focus on discourse) but ended up helping you think about other connections (how academics are situated and related to academic discourse). Your discussion of scope was really helpful for me, particularly because that's what I found in my own analysis using Foucault; this theory helped me think about big picture notions of writing centers as a network between ideal versus actual practices, but not necessarily, in my view, as helpful in considering a specific writing center as a network. Foucault's theory to me seems most helpful when considering big picture notions of networks.
I was really intrigued by your point that people seemed to be best suited to be nodes in this system; in my analysis I argued that practices were best understood as nodes in this system. I find myself wondering if our different choices of what counts as a node as noted in our posts reveal a similar understanding of what constitutes nodes in this system or contrasting notions. I think it would be helpful for you and I to talk and parse out our thinking to discover that.
I was interested in your connections towards the end of your post to neural networks in the brain. I think you were using it as a metaphor to describe information flow, but I think it would be really interesting to continue to look for and pursue connections between these different notions/types of networks.
Kim
Hey Laurie! I reviewed your case study per the assignment this week. You can find the rubric and my comments here https://adriennekubat.wordpress.com/2016/02/25/case-study-theory-rubric-2/ :)
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