Why these theories
The
academic interview genre is similar to published interviews familiar in
magazine journalism, but with some additional features generated by its
situatedness within academia and the situated identities of its participants
within a discipline or disciplines. For
this reason, an ecological or network approach works well for theorizing the
genre. Likewise, using such a heavily
situated genre as an object of study sheds light on the situatedness of genre
in general and adds insights on how theories that bring in ideas from
networking, complex systems or ecology can be productive as rhetorical theory. For the purpose of the current analysis, I use
as a foundation a previous analysis of cultural-historical activity theory
(CHAT) as adapted by Spinuzzi (2003). That
analysis compared CHAT with activity theory (AT), a precursor theory to CHAT
that is also productively used in writing studies (see, for example, Russell,
1997). Because my previous analysis
concluded that Spinuzzi’s version of CHAT captured most of what was best about
AT—though perhaps with a few modifications—I will be referring almost
exclusively to Spinuzzi’s version of CHAT here.
The most important purpose of the present analysis, however, is use
ideas from the genre theory of Carolyn Miller (1984, 1994) and Charles Bazerman
(1994, 2004) to generate a more fine-grained analysis of the place of genre
within an activity system.
Interview as literary genre
Research
on the academic interview as a genre has not been too extensive, as I noted in
my previous case study. Ironically, most
of the discussion has been done in the field of literature rather than rhetoric
or discourse analysis. For example, as I
noted in my previous case study, Chakraborty (2010) discusses how Gayatri
Spivak’s interviews brought together “the scholarship with the persona” (p.
623) and how public intellectuals can “use the interview as a modus vivendi to
produce intimate interlocution with their chosen constituency” (p. 627). Chakraborty draws conclusions for the genre
as a whole but she is more interested in what Spivak’s interviews say about
Spivak. Two other literary scholars, however, do look at interviews as genre. One,
David Neal Miller (1984) describes how Isaac Bashevis Singer has played with
the generic expectations of the interview, bringing it closer to a fictional
genre. Some of Singer’s techniques
include controlling the trajectory of the interview, offering playful and not
always consistent answers, and reviewing the manuscripts before publication. Miller
notes that “the geniality and formal accessibility of Singer's interviews belie
the radical reorientation of generic expectations that they undertake to
produce” (p. 198). A third literary
scholar, Ted Lyon (1994) came to a similar conclusion about the way that Borges
approached interviews, illustrating techniques that Borges uses to make the
interview artistic, and arguing that “Borges turned the interview into a
literary genre, a game, a personal art form that he often controlled more
directly than the interviewer” (p. 75). In
his article, Lyon also reviews several other scholars who have looked at the
interview as a literary genre, before moving on to consider the extent to which
interviews work as a literary genre that draws on both written and spoken style,
has a rambling, serendipitous quality to it, and hence, represents a blurring
of generic form. To what extent, does an
interview of a famous author in a literary publication share generic features
with the interview of a scholar in an academic journal? Both Singer and Borges were known as storytellers
and prolific interviewees. Perhaps it is
not surprising that they used the interview as a creative literary genre. Still,
it is useful to consider the extent to which any public figure reflexively uses
an interview as a promotional vehicle and performative event.
The academic interview and its activity system
On the other
hand, the typical academic interview appears to have a tighter set of generic expectations attached to it than the Singer and Borges interviews do. To see that this is the case, we will revisit
the academic interview within its activity system while adding genre theory to
the CHAT analysis. Next, we will consider
instances of academic interviews as artifacts of the genre, looking for ways
that traces of the network show up as rhetorical moves within the genre. Finally, we will look at what genre theory
accomplishes—or neglects—in terms of building productive theory.
Perhaps the
best source for grasping the network nature of genre theory is Miller’s (1994)
article on the cultural basis of genre, building on her seminal (1984) article
on genre as social action. The most
clear-cut identification of the nodes comes from her identification of the
“rules and resources of a genre,” namely, “reproducible speaker” and
“addressee” as roles, “social typifications of recurrent social needs or
exigences,” “topical structures” and “ways of indexing an event to material
conditions.” All of these are embedded
within each instantiation of a genre as it is situated “in space-time” (p.
71). It does not seem to stretch the
case too much to correlate most, if not all, of these with nodes that we have
already identified within the CHAT model offered by Spinuzzi. The “collaborators” node (in other models of
activity theory “subject”) correlates with the “reproducible speaker” and the
“addressee” might be associated with the “object,” though we might also see
object as “social action,” or in the terms of Miller (1994), “social
typifications of recurrent social needs or exigences.” The “topical structures” correlate with
Spinuzzi’s “domain knowledge” (also known as “rules” in some versions of CHAT) and
“ways of indexing an event to material conditions” could be analogous to the “instruments”
in Spinuzzi’s model, which are also material objects, or the human and cultural
context that he calls “community” and “division of labor.” However, it may be problematic to associate “ways
of indexing” with so many nodes in Spinuzzi’s model. However, the concept does seem a little
undertheorized in Miller’s (1994) article. The “addressee role” as a node also seems to
map slightly differently between genre theory and Spinuzzian CHAT. Even though it is not a perfect fit, our attempt
to correlate genre theory to the activity system does offer us two insights,
however. First, it shows us that there
are important points of overlap between CHAT and genre theory. This is not surprising considering the fact
that activity systems are frequently discussed in tandem with genre (Russell,
1997; Bazerman, 2004; Spinuzzi, 2003). Although
these theorists don’t use the same version of the activity system, all argue
that genre is best seen at work within an activity system. The second point to note here is simply that
genre theory also can be mapped in network terms. By employing some of the familiar terms from
the already mapped CHAT network, we can see that this is the case.
Not
all nodes have equal agency within the network, either in CHAT or in genre
theory. In genre theory, a human agent,
the speaker, employs the genre to accomplish something. This gives this node the strongest
agency. The genre itself facilitates
reproducibility, highlighting features of the situation, thematically and
textually, and making them more salient, more likely to be reproduced in future
situations. In this sense genre itself
has agency, and thus, too, the nodes of structures, social typifications, and
situational anchors, though to a more minor degree compared with the
speaker. Each of these nodes shares agency
in that together they shape the message that employs the genre as a vehicle. A
node that offers little agency, interestingly, is the role of addressee. The genre theory model does not theorize
interaction with an audience as impacting back on the network, though this
might be implicit since genre theory is working within the framework of rhetoric,
and many contemporary models of rhetoric see collaboration or interaction between
speaker and audience.
Within
Spinuzzi’s model of CHAT there is a strong sense of directionality within the
network. Reading activity system diagram
from left to right, as Americans are programmed to do, we find the subject in
the most salient, or initiating, location.
This holds true for genre theory.
Since the speaker has strong agency, he or she is the initiator within
the network. What is moving within the
network in genre theory is a packaged message, or perhaps more accurately,
intention. Bazerman (1994) corroborates
this point. Genres “identify a
repertoire of actions that may be taken in a set of circumstances” and to that
extent, “identify the possible intentions one may have” (1994, p. 82). CHAT
captures this point even more clearly in the way that the activity system is
diagrammed. An arrow leads from the
diagram to the right, labeled “outcomes.”
We also know that the collaborators with a division of labor within a
larger community structured by rules are using mediating instruments to accomplish
some goal or “object,” the intention flows through the network towards the
outcomes.
Neither
the genre theory model nor the CHAT model makes a strong distinction between
communication as rhetorical work and any type of productive task that a group
intends to accomplish. For example, or
where a speech is made or a paper is written, the rhetorical work emerges more
clearly than when the collaborators in the activity system are engaged in
building a bonfire or repairing a car, tasks that presumably are not done in
silence but where the communication event is a less conspicuous part of the
process. In a case where information is
recorded in a database, as in the accident logging system that Spinuzzi (2003)
examines, the genre is seen as the instrument.
In an explicitly rhetorical event, like a political speech, this also
makes sense. But in all of these tasks, whether
those with more stereotypically rhetorical goals or more physical ones, other tools
or objects may come into play. Thus,
when genre appears in the instruments or tools position in the network, we lose
sight of these other material objects. For
that reason, I place genre in a central, mediating position for my purposes. This move also owes a debt to several other
theories, such as actor-network theory, a move that I will justify more fully
in the synthesis paper to come.
Academic genre as cultural artifact
At
this point, we shift our discussion to a fuller theorizing of the academic
interview genre from a genre theory perspective. When we bring Spinuzzian CHAT together with
genre theory, we begin to see network mapped on two levels. First, we have the activity system itself as
a network—or if we want to go beyond the activity system at the focus of an
analysis, as for example Spinuzzi’s (2003) activity system clustered around the
accident logging system—we can see that activity systems impinge upon each
other, opening up into a complex network of shifting and evolving activity
systems. To take a quick example,
engineers do not only reengineer intersections using accident statistics but
also accomplish other goals with other sets of collaborators, employing other
rules, using different instruments. In
other words, they participate in other activity systems. For our purposes, we will be arguing that a
single activity system or an ecology of activity systems represents one level
of mapping. The other level of mapping
occurs within the genre as an artifact.
Each text within a genre leaves traces of the activity system that
produced it. Spinuzzi (2003) makes this
point in his discussion of genre, calling genre “a sort of social memory that
its practitioners accept without their explicit recognition that they are doing
so” (p. 43). Miller (1994) quotes
Anthony Giddens’ characterization of social structure as existing in “memory
traces” that guide agent’s actions (p. 70), and later in her article, notes
that “as bearers of culture, these artifacts literally incorporate knowledge—knowledge of the aesthetics, economics,
politics, religious beliefs and all the various dimensions of what we know as
human culture” (p. 69, emphasis in the original). In other words, genres carry
within themselves the traces of the activity system that employs them, and
thus, also map within themselves the network nodes and connections that we have
discussed. This is precisely what we add
by shifting our focus away from genre within the activity system to genre as an
artifact, and what we can better see by going back to genre theorists such as
Miller (1984, 1994) and Bazerman (1994, 2004).
To
better see this, we now move to an informal analysis of a small corpus of
academic interviews. I looked at two interviews
of Bazerman (Crawford & Smout, 1995; Florida State, n.d.), one of Latour (Tresch,
2013), and one of Deleuze (Deleuze & McMuhan, 1998). In addition, I revisited an interview of
Spinuzzi that I referred to in a previous case study (McNely, 2013). Although this is a small sample, I made an
attempt to represent both intra-disciplinary and cross-disciplinary interviews,
printed and online journals, and in the Florida State case, an unpublished
interview that was nevertheless distributed online. For each case, I noted the types of information
included in the interview in an attempt to determine what types of information
are typically included in an academic interview. All five mentioned scholars who influenced
their ideas, such as mentors or individuals whose works they had read. This appears to be almost obligatory for the academic
interview. Four out of five, for
example, included a strong narrative element in terms of how the scholar got
into the field or got involved with the area of research that he was known
for. All four also included personal
asides as part of this narrative, like, for example, the fact that Latour’s
daughter was born in Africa while he was doing fieldwork there (Tresch, 2013,
p. 305). Four out of five also made comments about
their disciplinary identity and disciplinary or cross-disciplinary elements
within their scholarship. Bazerman and
Spinuzzi both made arguments about what is, or should be, included in the discipline
of rhetoric. Latour and Deleuze did not
do so, for several possible reasons.
They were being interviewed in a cross-disciplinary context. They are not easy to pin to a single
discipline. The disciplines that they
have worked in are less reflexive and perhaps more secure about their
disciplinary status than rhetoric and writing studies is. Some other topics that two or more interviews
touched on include comments on current projects, comments on best-known work or
works, explanation of core ideas within their scholarship, and future
prospects, either for the field or related to their research program. Three discussed methodology, but because of the
centrality of this discussion in several interviews and its importance for accounting
for the uptake of innovative scholarship, I would expect it to emerge as
important in a larger sample. I did not
track the order that the ideas occurred because my goal was not to find a
conventional order—if such even exists for interviews. Rather I wanted to determine the extent to
which elements of the activity system show up as points of reference within the
interview.
In
fact, we can see that they do. Again,
using Spinuzzi’s model of CHAT, we can see elements of community, if community
is taken as discipline or research program.
Most scholars situate themselves within or across disciplines within the
interview. A number tell the story of
how they entered the discipline. Reference
to influences also connect to community.
In other words, a key goal of the interview seems to be to situate the
scholar and his or her scholarship within the field and to promote his or her
ideas. Moving back to genre theory,
there is also the addressed, namely, other members of the disciplinary
community or the larger academic community.
The discussion of methodology brings us traces of the “instrument” node,
and in some cases, “domain knowledge.” Discussion
of a scholar’s projects, whether previous work or current work, one could argue
also connects to the “tools” or “instruments” node, in the sense that it is a
tool for actively promoting the scholar’s ideas.
The
collaborators themselves—that is to say, the interviewer and interviewee, we
might point out, are explicitly present in the interviewee, and in the typical
Q & A format, remain highly conspicuous.
The personal asides highlight the human side of the scholar, and we
might argue, fulfill another role of the academic interview, the desire of
followers and fans to feel closer to an admired figure. This is no doubt the primary goal of
interviews in popular magazines, but it is not absent from the academic
interview.
The academic
interview represents a speech event that takes place at a specific point in
time—usually identified—and occurs at a specific location, usually one where
the interviewer and interviewee are co-present, and often identified in the
introduction to the published interview.
In the case of the Spinuzzi interview, for example, both participants
were at a conference whereas both Bazerman interviews took place on college
campuses where Bazerman made a presentation.
Tresch (2013) merely notes that his interview of Latour is an edited transcript
of “a conversation held in Paris on 16
March 2012” (p. 303). It is interesting
that the academic interview so clearly anchors the event in space and
time. The time of the interview, particularly,
serves as an anchor for the treatment of time within the interview. The narrative part of the interview represents
the past, bringing the reader up to the present moment of the interview. Mention of mentors and other important
influences also often appear within this narrative, though wherever they appear
they help to situate the scholar by filling in details of the past. Discussion of current projects, methodological
preferences and core concepts are foregrounded in the present. Finally, interviews not uncommonly end with a
reference to ongoing or future projects or trends for the future, either within
a field or research program, or society at large.
As a genre,
the academic interview draws on a recurrent situation—a scholar becomes known
for a publication, a scholarly program, a breakthrough, and draws the interest of
the academic community. Each interview,
however, represents a single event that occurs at a specific time and place and
focuses on a scholar at a specific moment in time. The same scholar interviewed twice does not
tell the exact same story. In fact, the
interview itself can subtly change the scholarly landscape and lead to a
different story. This means that as content
or meaning travel through the network, the network changes. As Miller (1994) points out, genres are “cultural
constructs that reflexively help construct their culture” (p. 69). The network is constantly evolving, and each
time the genre is employed, it emerges from an evolving activity system, which
in turn may be affected by the message as well as all the traces of the culture
encoded in the genre.
As we can
see, genre theory reinforces much of what is present in CHAT, as defined in
Spinuzzi (2003) and presented both in this analysis and the previous case
study. On the other hand, since it is
rhetorically-based, genre theory offers a stronger emphasis on the audience
than CHAT does. Genre theory also leads
to a finer-grained analysis of genre as an artifact that that mirrors both the
activity system and the cultural values encoded within the activity
system. On the other hand, neither model
has much to say about the larger culture of which the activity system is a
part. They do not account for the
complex interaction with other activity systems. Both need add-ons to highlight power
relations or provide a critical lens. The
activity system framework can, however, serve as a heuristic to call attention
to a number of the elements operating within an organization or discourse
community that play a role in a speech event, and genre theory further focuses
our attention on some of these elements.
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